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flight magic confusion learned spells

TomDRock
so my player keeps telling me that

While there is no limit to level-1 maneuvers a pegasi, griffin or alicorn can learn to perform, they
may only learn up to their AGI score in level 2 maneuvers, 1/3 their AGI score (rounded down) in level 3
maneuvers, and a single level 4 maneuver. In addition to this cap, fliers can learn up to one passive flight
maneuver at every level (with an unlimited number of level 0 passives – all fliers start with those).

means that he should be able to learn every flight magic level one spell with out limit

even though the paragraph before it said

characters with the flight racial ability may learn a number of maneuvers equal to 1/10 their total
flight skill rank, and may perform any rank-0 maneuvers without formally learning them. This determines how many maneuvers a flight-capable character starts with – just take their initial flight rank, divide by 10 and round down. Every time they pass another divisible-by-ten threshold, they have the opportunity to learn a new flight maneuver. What maneuvers are available to them are restricted by their rank – up to rank 25, they can only learn up level 1 maneuvers. At rank 50, they gain access to level 2 maneuvers, and rank 75 gains access to level 3 maneuvers. The single level 4 maneuver can only be chosen upon reaching skill rank 100.

i would think that the no limit on level 1 spells is so that you could get a perk/trait/hindrance  to expand the amount of flight spells you could get
so normal you could only have up to 10 level 1 spells


just bringing it to your attention (it was under the request of my player and would like to not be called out for being a lair)
and thank you for your time
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Re: flight magic confusion learned spells

RageLokiCat
I'm confused as to what the point of this post is, exactly. Are you asking a question? Or are you just quoting the rulebook to us? I guess at the least I could clear up the rules that you've linked.

-You know all level 0 maneuvers without them counting against your total.
-You can learn an unlimited number of level 1 maneuvers starting at a flight rank of 25, but these must not push you past your TOTAL number of known maneuvers of all levels of flight/10.
-You can learn no more than your AGI in level 2 maneuvers, starting at flight rank 50, but you once again cannot make your total number of known maneuvers of all levels more than flight/10.
-You can learn AGI/3 level 3, starting at 75, with the same deal. ALL your level 1, 2, and 3 cannot total more than flight/10.
-You may learn a single level 4 at flight 100, which adds one to your total number of available maneuvers, which is capped at 10 at that point.

It's not terribly complicated, it's balanced in the same way spell-casters are, and I don't think it needs to be changed.
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Re: flight magic confusion learned spells

Loaneal
Rage is totally right in this one, there's traits/perks available to help with flight but as Rage pointed out that's exactly how many maneuvers you get.

Me and one of my groupmates used to argue, a lot, about if Flight was too overpowered compared to magic since there is no strain to flight maneuvers, honestly I'm still in the position magic is more useful, but Flight can really help the dodge scenarios be a lot safer (bless Juke and it's heavenly father for existing).
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Re: flight magic confusion learned spells

TomDRock
In reply to this post by RageLokiCat
that is about what i thought.  i just thought it might be a good idea to rewrite it to avoid future confusion.
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Re: flight magic confusion learned spells

archerofhope
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I don't know how I could go about clarifying that one... do you have any suggestions?

You have the total number of maneuvers defined first, then you can take numbers of maneuvers from each of the sub categories equal to the values explained second.  
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